Just saw a post saying they wouldn’t care if Finn wasn’t in Glee club. 

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Can I please kindly remind you, that the reason Glee club is still on right now. Is because of Finn.

lol this is hilarious, guys. Where would Glee Club even be without Finn right now? Oh wait, they wouldn’t even have any more than 5 members and wouldn’t be eligible to participate in ANYTHING. Actually, they’d probably only have four and be Rachel Berry-less because she would’ve bailed when Schue failed to find her a leading man, and Schue would’ve left WHMS to be an accountant because DSB, which is what brought him back to his senses, wouldn’t have happened without Finn. You wouldn’t have Hummelberry, or Faberry, or Puckleberry, or St. Berry, or Brittana, or Klaine, or Fabrevans, or Quick, or Tike or Bartie or ANYTHING without Finn, so STFU. Thanks.

Another day, another post defending Finn Hudson. 

In response to this post.. because the reblog just got insanely long when I added the reply to it.

I’ll be honest here- I disagree with 99% of this post. There are double standards galore, and there has been a lot of care taken in explaining why the other characters act the way they do, but not why Finn acts the way he does. Let’s start at the top, shall we?

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So here’s the thing I have trouble comprehending where Finn stans are concerned. 

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I feel like the logic they use is most generally “he’s a teenager, teenagers make mistakes, and oh by the way, remember when *insert character here* fucked up royally and everyone still loves on THEM?” And the thing is, I really don’t think that’s a fair comparison.

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I’ll be honest here- I disagree with 99% of this post. There are double standards galore, and there has been a lot of care taken in explaining why the other characters act the way they do, but not why Finn acts the way he does. Let’s start at the top, shall we?

Puck. Puck, I’ll give you, has become a terrifically developed character. HOWEVER, everyone treats him like he can do no wrong right now, but what he did to Quinn during the prom queen campaign was horrendous. To treat someone he supposedly “loved” that way, regardless of the situation, is unforgivable. I’m not saying he’s matured- he has, and it’s beautiful, and I love him for it. But he, too, has slipped and has regressed.

Quinn and Santana. I feel like you are excusing them for their actions because of their reasons behind them. “but at least we understand WHY they are this way” .. well, if you wanna play that way, if you look hard enough, you’ll figure out exactly why Finn is the way he is. So Santana has issues with her sexuality.. okay. Understandable, but not an excuse. So Quinn has issues with cheating and loving and losing and, out of left field, previously being unattractive.. okay. But you know what, Finn has his share of issues, too. He had no father, his mom and he barely scraped by, his first real girlfriend (as far as we know) cheated and lied, he fell in love with someone else, he lost that someone else because of his unresolved trust issues, then he lost her again because he held something back and she cheated on him with the same guy that his other girlfriend cheated on him with. During this whole mess, he also thought he was losing his mom, his WORLD, to a guy who has a crush on him and the guy’s dad. Finn has ISSUES. I’m not excusing them.. I’m just saying that if other characters can be given a little slack because of what they’re going through, so can Finn.

Kurt and Mercedes. Sure, they’ve matured, but Mercedes can’t decide for the life of her whether or not she actually wants to be Rachel’s friend, and Kurt plays the victim more times than there are stars in the whole damn sky.

Rachel. I love Rachel, but I will be the first to admit where she is flawed. But you know what the difference is between how people see her and how they see Finn? It’s understood that she’s misunderstood. She’s been set up to be misunderstood, so people get that and they accept it and they love her because of and in spite of it. Finn, though? He was set up to be the golden boy, who had to be perfect, so when he slips, it’s a total abomination, and no one can understand it, because his character wasn’t supposed to be that way. Rachel’s allowed to make mistakes and send people to crackhouses, because she’s driven and she’s been that way since day 1, holding no prisoners on her way to success.. but Finn’s not allowed because he was supposed to be the leading man, the trailblazer, not someone whose emotions can take control. …. double. standards.

When people bring up Finn’s battle of Quinn vs. Rachel, I just don’t even know what to do with myself. Yes, Finn breaks up with Rachel and does the same thing to Sam with Quinn as what Rachel did to him with Puck. But THAT’S WHY HE DOES IT. He’s sick of being the one who is cheated on. He has so many trust issues now, the girl he loves more than anything just crushed his heart. That’s WHY he does it, because he’s been Sam before, because he knows how that feels, and because he’s sick of it and wants to be on the other end. Is it right? Of course not. But that’s why.

Now, as for him bouncing between Quinn and Rachel. Honestly? It was never even a question. It’s been Rachel all along. You claim he always wants what he can’t have, but that’s simply not true. His “rock star” issues come from Rachel being an extremely eager and stifling person to be in a relationship with when you’ve just broken up with someone who cheated on and lied to you. He just needs time. And your next point isn’t even valid- he doesn’t realize he wants her back once she’s already in a new relationship. He realizes he wants her back BEFORE that. He tells her that he was wrong even before he knows about Jesse. He genuinely wants to be with her (“I realized the only thing I needed to fix was us.”) but then she tells him he’s too late. It’s not about the chase, it’s about him just coming to his realization a day too late.

So once he’s with Rachel.. “all the while seeing nothing wrong with lying to her about things he is fully aware matter to her; dumps her for doing a tame version of what he’s done himself” Okay, I have serious issues with this statement. He KNOWS lying to her is wrong. He’s just thrown way off guard when she admits that she didn’t have sex with Jesse. He keeps it from her because he wants to protect her and their relationship. No, it’s not the right way to go about it, but his intentions are pure. (“Because I’m in love with her and I don’t want to hurt her feelings.”) Now, the second part.. he dumps her not because of the act itself, but because Rachel was supposed to be the one person who would never do that to him. He would never, ever cheat on her because he’s in love with her.. and he thought she felt the same. He now feels betrayed, he feels like it’s all been a sham. This is ten times worse than what Quinn did to him, even if the act itself is less of a crime, because he loves Rachel. He’s in love with Rachel. He was never in love with Quinn. This is a whole different animal to him than was Quinn cheating on him, or him cheating on Quinn.. he loves Rachel and she loves him (or so he thought) and you just don’t do those things when you love someone so much. Or so goes his thought process. That’s why it hurt more- because she meant more to him, their relationship meant more to him.

Now, when people blame Finn for the demise of Quinn/Sam.. PUH-LEASE. It takes two to tango. If Quinn had been “happy with Sam,” she wouldn’t have fooled around with Finn. She’s as much to blame (if not more, considering it’s her relationship) as is Finn. And as for “ditching her” for Rachel.. Quinn was using him. She wanted Prom Queen, and she wanted him on her arm helping her get there. I’m not saying he wasn’t using her, too.. he was. He wanted the pain to go away, he wanted an easy distraction. But I hardly think he broke her heart. He was far more broken down during the breakup scene than she was, and when she let out a whopping ONE TEAR, he nearly crumbled to his knees in apology and guilt. Quinn doesn’t want him, she wants the power and she wants the confidence, and she wants somebody to love her.. but she never wanted him, Finn, the person, in specific, he was just what could get her places she wanted to go.

I’m not sure what mistakes Finn is being ignorant of right now, because everyone seems to think he’s still making them, but I think he’s rectified them all. He’s a good brother to Kurt, he was kind and loving to Quinn while he was with her (watch that locker scene in “BTW” and then tell me otherwise) and he wants to make things right with the love of his life. Of course he’s going to make more mistakes, but so will everyone else, and they’ll all learn and grow from them. I don’t agree when you say the writers are painting him as a “can do no harm” character.. they made him a total douche in Rachel’s absence, and that was on purpose. To show exactly what he becomes when he’s broken and hurting without her by his side, when he’s desperate to make the pain stop. The writers aren’t stupid (well.. y’know..), they’ve been displaying Finn’s emotions with, what I would consider, the consistency of an average high school boy who’s gone through what he’s going through. It’s when the issues aren’t acknowledged by viewers, when people pose these double standards, when no one takes the time to understand why Finn is the way he is (yet other characters are excused for whatever other reasons) that he comes off as a terrible person. He’s not. You just have to be willing to take off the biased goggles and really just look at him for who he is, for what’s made him him.

(And I hardly think Jesse St. James has made more progress than Finn. That statement is laughable to me.)

Finn rant. Character rant in general. Apologies in advance. 

You know.. I’m still seeing a lot of people raggin’ on Finn, and on his fans. The part that makes me most angry? That “the only reason anyone likes him is because Cory’s cute.” I know some of you making these comments are people who follow me, or that I follow, so I want you to know that I mean no disrespect to your opinion, and I’m in no way judging you.. but I just needed to let out a couple things.

First off, the same could be said for any other character. Quinn and Jesse, for example- I almost like Quinn because I try to understand her, and I feel badly for her; she’s just a teenage girl who’s made a lot of mistakes. But honestly? I think half the reason people love her is because Dianna’s adorable. I know that was a LOT of my reasoning at first- early in the series, before we saw the emotional depth, before we knew how much she’s suffering, I wanted so badly to hate her but couldn’t, only because it’s Dianna. Same with Jesse: I know for a fact that people like him just because he’s played by Jon Groff. I even used to be able to remotely stand him (not a shred of respect remains after he tore Finn down last night.. that was ridiculous) but, to be honest, that was mostly because I love Jon. It really had nothing to do with the character himself, who I think is rather irritating and self-centered. Even Santana.. people have told me the only reason they like Santana is because they like Naya, or because Naya’s hot.

But secondly.. I think saying that is offensive to true fans of Finn. I don’t find Max Adler exceptionally attractive, but I absolutely ADORE Karofsky, despite all he’s done, because I understand him as a character, and I feel for him, and I want him to be happy. I don’t think Kevin McHale’s exceptionally attractive, but I stood up for Artie when all the Brittana stans were knocking him down- because Artie, as a character, deserved to be defended; he was not the victim here, and I think his anger, although badly executed, was justified. Looking at it the other way, I really, really like Ashley Fink, but I don’t care much for Lauren. I really think it’s offensive to tell people that they only support a character because of the actor portraying them- it’s telling us that we’re superficial and that we can’t distinguish the actor from the character. I love Finn. I KNOW some of you are going to come after me and tell me it’s because I love Cory. You wanna know what? That’s not true at all. Actually, it’s kind of the opposite- part of why I love Cory so much is for his incredible portrayal of Finn, for the emotional depth he brings.

I would support Finn regardless of appearance, and I think it’s really insulting to insinuate that we are shallow enough to only consider that. I support him because he’s a 17-year-old boy who is scared and confused and has been manipulated and has had his heart broken.. he doesn’t know who to believe, he doesn’t know who to trust- hell, he doesn’t even trust himself. I support him because, despite what you all say about how manipulative he is.. only ONCE has he ever intended to do so, and that was right after he was panicking over finding out his girlfriend was pregnant. And he admitted to his wrong. And he truly had feelings for Rachel, he just didn’t know what to do about them, because.. his girlfriend was pregnant. But even then, he didn’t mean any harm. NOT ONCE has he intended to hurt ANYONE.

All this said- can I address something here, that’s been bothering me for MONTHS, almost a YEAR? …. Contrary to whatever you want to believe, Finn egging Rachel and Jesse egging Rachel WERE NOT THE SAME THING. What Finn did was a blind act, just mindlessly following the others, and HE DIDN’T KNOW RACHEL. He had no contact with her, THEY DIDN’T KNOW EACH OTHER. Jesse, on the other hand? Jesse let her believe that he loved her, he let her believe he had forgiven her and wanted the best for her.. and then he humiliated her, he broke her, in front of everyone, even after given the opportunity to walk away innocent. He could’ve said no, he could’ve refused to do it- what’s his team really gonna do? He’s the star, and they’re days away from competition, they’re not gonna kick him out. He could’ve said no. BUT HE DIDN’T. He KNEW what he was doing to her, he KNEW he was ripping her heart out and stomping all over it.. and he did it anyway. So if I hear one more damn time that Finn egging her and Jesse egging her are equivalent, I swear I’m gonna blow the fuck up.

Finally: everyone keeps saying that Finn only wanted Rachel when someone else did. Can I remind you all of something? In “Hell-O,” when Finn tells Rach he’s sorry, that he wants to fix them, that he wants her back.. he has NO IDEA that she had met Jesse. She tells him then, after he makes his feelings clear. He admitted to wanting her BEFORE he knew she was taken. All of your arguments are completely invalid. I don’t know who tried to get the point started, but.. it’s not even accurate. He wanted her before. It was just his bad luck that he was too late. And then he waited PATIENTLY, he didn’t try to break them up, and he supported her. Then, when the mess with Jesse happened, he didn’t even try to swoop in and take advantage of her vulnerability. He was just the friend, supporting her, and SHE came to HIM. She kissed HIM, SHE initiated it. Now to season 2: Again, people are saying Finn only wants her now that Jesse’s back. Are you all blind? HE’S WANTED HER FOR 10 EPISODES NOW. He’s wanted her from the moment they broke up, he just couldn’t handle it because he was too hurt. If you’ve been watching the show AT ALL these past few weeks, throughout this final arc, you’d see that he’s been slowly softening towards her, that he’s been slowly realizing that he really does want to make things right with her. It’s just, again, his bad luck and Jesse’s poor timing. HE’S WANTED HER ALL ALONG, I don’t think Jesse showing up affected that AT ALL. It was just.. time for him, Jesse or not.

I mean.. can I just bring in another example for a moment? QUINN. She is, for all intents and purposes, the female equivalent of Finn right now.. aside from the fact that Finn never really did anything as bad as she has. But the reason people support her, the reason people still believe in her and want happiness for her is because she’s been to Hell and back, and despite her actions, she deserves a break. She’s had a horrific time these past two years, and no one deserves that. She is the way she is because she’s scared, because she doesn’t want to just turn into a nobody. I, personally, find it very trying to defend her at times, because I want to dislike her so badly, but.. I understand her (and, I mean, if a FINCHEL fan can forgive her..). SANTANA, as well. Yes, we’re seeing more emotional depth to her now.. but on the surface, she’s still a bitch, and she’s said and done countless hurtful things, and she’s caused unrepairable damage to relationships. Yet, people love her because everyone, despite how they seem on the surface, has a story, has inner turmoil, and deserves love and happiness in spite of it all. And if these two girls can be defended, if THEY can be understood.. why is it so hard to give FINN a break, when he’s been the victim more times than we can count?

I think a lot of people just discount him. They discount his feelings and emotions because he’s just a dumb jock who tries to have two girls at once, at his convenience. …..no, he’s a scared teenage boy who wants only ONE girl, but has been hurt so badly that he finds himself turning to another to forget his pain. He’s not manipulative. If there is one thing Finn Hudson is not, it’s manipulative. He has never wished harm upon anyone, he has never made a decision with the intent of hurting someone. He just doesn’t always understand the ramifications of his actions- but how many teenage boys, who have been through what he’s been through, really do? He shut that part of him down, he shut down that part that could get too involved, that could get too attached, that could get hurt again. That doesn’t mean he’s not pure at heart or that he’s malicious. That means he’s like the majority of the high school population, and that he will find his way in due time.